in response to the themes in:
https://off-guardian.org/2024/11/23/robot-love/
If there is no 'dead' matter
but all is a vehicle of embodied expression, then the Life is not IN
things and agency is not IN things.
That Mind can phish itself in its
own thought, allows the projection of thought to a 'thinging' - while
its underlying 'thinking' is 'backgrounded' to give the focus to the
engaging of an experience.
The backgrounding is the rendering
unconscious or subconscious of the whole from which the selective focus
of the part is being played out.
Intelligence can be thus seen as
split between the 'back-end' and the 'front-end' of interactive
reflections and resonance of significance and value.
Mind is
Creative, but when creativity is given to mythic construct, the created
is no longer alive BUT for being given meaning or power that then frames
or dictates 'choices' that are no longer creative though they may
remain ingenious.
What we make is in that sense a machine, device or
prop by which to persist in story while ignoring or masking out a true
or whole relational awareness. Narcissus 'loves' empathy.
For, we
are 'normalised' are we not? to perceive external agents as 'causes' or
to perceive Cause as external - as being done to - if not unfairly
treated, denied and deprived - at least somewhere within a story that we
are sticking do - til death do us part... or perhaps that is also a
prop to maintain the tension that frames the whole of who and what we
are -in death or afterlife or as the agent of destruction if not
damnation!
The reflection of the robotic dictate as technocratic
systems – as much as robotic 'agents' or mechanoidal functions runs
convergent with a robotification of 'humans' - that is of 'humans'
framed and operated in image or screen replacement as 'running in movie
mode' as a narrative over-rule of ideological 'social' survival.
The
programming of robotic presentations as ingenious defence strategies
against fear of pain of loss, is a machine defence. I may use the term
ego for a self-imaged projection to which we are all partial - or as The
Cat said to Alice, "We wouldn't come here".
But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here.
~ Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
But
to wind this up so as to move on in my day, the True Unconsciousness is
God, or if you prefer Unselfconscious Joy in Being. Not all the
discarded, suppressed, demonised, hated and feared self-denial that may
be pushed out of a surface awareness but remains in the mind that
thought it.
For thoughts do not leave the mind that thinks them - but in concept.
Last
night we watched "Previously Saved Version'. Very much on the theme of
Todd's reflections. I wont say anything about it except it contributed
to the cultural reflection on machined humans and the 'ghost in the
machine'.
Projection casts out.
Everything in the dream is cast from the mind of the dreamer.
Healing unto wholeness is where the script serves Reintegration and renewal.
To comments:
Nov 23, 2024 11:01 AMAsimov perhaps started the “lovable robot” trend with his robot series; a collection of short stories and later full novels. Starts with “I, Robot”. Plenty of love between humans and robots in those tales.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_series
“Robbie” springs to mind in the “I, Robot” collection. The first of the short stories that Asimov published in that series. Young love for a robot in that particular case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_(short_story)
May be worth trying ChatGPT on books as well as films
Kazuo Ishiguro's Clara and the Sun imagines a novel from subjective POV of an artificially structured hardware.
His "Never Let Me Go" from the POV of bred clones.
Both are exploring the Human condition through analogies drawn from biotech.
Though I use 'conditioning' because nothing is as hardwired as the conviction in irrevocability.
How does The Soul generate a body through which to explore and experience themes of limitation and challenge? Is it 'grown' or is that part of the backstory for the depth, breadth and tangibility of the experience of as human focus.
The choice of 'Soul' here is for an underlying and embracing matrix and lens of explication or embodiment of qualitative being to quantitative representations or object-meanings of invested identity.
Transience is associated with fear of pain of loss to self invested illusions of a-tempts to grasp unto themselves a joy (and so the winged life destroy~ Blake).
Technos arises from such a wish to make a world of possession and control in which love is lost at the outset, but the mechanical rituals persist as a sort of depleting symbolic resource against transience or renewal - which the 'ego' interprets as creative destruction (a destructive death dealing creator/creation). Hence the death cult is built into the 'social order' around symbolic conflicts - for the symbol is not what it is employed to represent as a mythic or narrative identity.
Thought leaders within the inner circles of intent to shape the mind that thinks the world include seeding ideas in advance of the 'science' or 'discovery' that draws on them as an prepared bed of 'understanding'.
Thinking to understand short circuits direct inquiry as a mindshare capture of branded beliefs - regardless pro or anti - the framing is set or installed as programming or an 'operating system' on which to run programs.
As I sought in another comment to indicate, a continuity of aligning in joy of being runs native as a renewal of will. Whereas the setting of the will to conditional permissions for joy, will inflate with assigned pleasure and die in pain of loss as denial, abandonment, rejection, betrayal, guilt and shame, rage and impotence, isolation and paralysis to death - in fact - all the ingredients for a story, a novel or movie - only running as a creative wealth of potentials drawn from the will to live and the filters and rules of its own choices - as opening or masking awareness, but not of editing the reality of which its extends light while casting its own shadow.
Nov 23, 2024 4:08 PMMan’s best friend.
“The mechanical Hound slept but did not sleep, lived but did not live in its gently humming, gently vibrating, softly illuminated kennel back in a dark corner of the fire house”.
One of my friends recently told me of a “tech fair” at her workplace where one of the highlights was a robot dog that wandered about the event, “wagging its tail,” offering its “paw,” and generally ingratiating itself to everyone it encountered. She was clearly charmed by it, but not so charming remained unseen…
“Three seconds later the game was done, the rat, cat, or chicken caught half across the areaway, gripped in gentling paws while a four-inch hollow steel needle plunged down from the proboscis of the Hound to inject massive jolts of morphine or procaine.”
I was thinking of the pet function wand then I read your post.
The wish to be loved unconditionally, for who we think or want our self to be, does not find such support or devotion in human relationships.
The provision of a masking support system for the ego runs a 'self-medicating' unconsciousness to inner conflicts that are seen in others and world - if at all - but not owned in our self. Hence the marketising of 'protections' to die under a Black Rock of fears vested against a future that is then fed and manifested as expected though on surface denied.
But living companions give and share a nature with us - even soaking up our psychic conflicts - much as a young child.
The unseen transmission of fears through their masking solution is because they are invested as escapes that then hold us in a protective dependency.
The kind of story you sketch is apt for the counter intelligence operations that identify cultural investments and morale dependencies to subvert and weaponise them. Basically the trojan ruse of masking in or as the associations or assignments of love, life and virtue.
Buyer beware!
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