Cognitive Dissonance - levels of fragmented dissociation.

An interesting conversation on this page:
BoE Set to Save the Day, But the World’s Banking System Is Set to Fail

Bruce C commented:

Maybe the "middle road" explanation is that central banks, politicians, etc. think short term and always do whatever they think will work for a while and will ameliorate whatever current problem exists. Longer term problems are literally not their concern.
That's why I think CB's et al will continue to do whatever they can to keep the ball rolling. However, at the same time, I think they have the uncanny ability to almost always do the wrong things. That's why the theory that they are nefarious on purpose keeps cropping up, because it doesn't seem possible that an institution (central banking) can be so wrong so often. That's understandable, in a way, but there is far more evidence that mass stupidity is to blame than evil intent.
Look at it this way. When Janet Yellen speaks does she really seem like an evil genius, or an academic dolt? When Mario Draghi talks is he a brilliant tactician or just an a-hole? When Haruhiko Kuroda effuses does he seem inspired or robotic? When Mark Carney speaks does he seem diabolical or just dull? Et cetera.
Personally, I very surprised that the Fed hasn't raised interest rates this year. Asset prices are "too high" and they're starting to climb higher. Raising rates would tame that tiger and signal confidence in the US economy and strengthen the dollar. Not doing that will create more problems but I really think it's due more to stupidity than opportunism.

To Bruce C:
    The hidden agenda is largely operating via various levels of denial or 'unconsciousness. The so called 'conscious' level is not at all the narrative reality played out by any compartment or facet of fragmented Consciousness. But the narrative itself will have different levels - of public, private, top secret and forbidden etc.
    Different levels of 'need to know' operate different roles within their scripts and I feel that the USA - I haven't forgot the original 'American' basis of the US - is a good example of almost total fragmented dissociation - of broad spectrum cognitive dissonance.
    You cant expect a breakdown of communication to say - "I am a covering over a communication breakdown and by this I include the communication of raw emotional expression - but you can expect the mutual self interest in maintaining the cover story to operate divide and rule in place of bringing a truly receptive willingness and an honesty of witnessing that is not merely the public, but the private, and the top secret and even giving witness to the forbidden or denied reality that none the less is active but blind-sided.
    In the so called conscious level we attempt to use rational thought to 'see' with - when the rational mind is primarily founded in justifying and maintaining the mask or persona called forth to cover over the raw emotional splitting off into fragmentation that is both a cause and effect of mind-control.
    Lies must hide in truth and so from the point of view of the 'secret power mafia cartel' under any or no name - inner circles within circles operate that have a front in legitimate endeavour of at least plausible deniability in the event of confrontation.
    Most human beings are unable to maintain a lie unless they believe it is truly justifiable.
    Addressing the persona rather than discerning the validity of the foundation upon which the currency of a masked hate agenda operates - is the diversionary tactic that diverts awareness from true/false recognitions, into good/evil reactions. The chief method to justify an evil, a hate or lie is to be in righteous defence against a WORSE evil.
    Until the self righteous hate and the reaction to scaremongering thinking is paused for a truer perspective - there can be no freedom of choice. Only the winding up of a system to its breaking point. For no matter how much control is operating in any number of complex ways to maintain a narrative presentation of relative 'worth' or temporary 'security' - the cracks in the model open exponentially. There is no broad spectrum dominance - unless Planetary destruction can be seen to have solved the 'problem' - and for a pre rational sub personality urge "I hate myself and want to die!" is an active agenda that breaks out more and more through the loveless lack of acceptance for true worth that operates a lie of coercive and deceptive substitution. Such a life - SUCKS! And powerlessness and voice-lessness gives power to hate.
    So the personality level of each and every one is either aligning with the reintegration and acceptance of a wholeness of being - or playing out the struggle of power that runs all the way back to our core separation trauma - which is another way of saying we have not really moved past it - but covered over with level upon level of fragmenting dissociative plausible deniability - and the last point of change we look to is our self. But here am I and this is my experience. Once I recognize deceit in myself I cannot engage it as if it were true currency again. I cannot un-know - though yes I can 'try'. But there is a self-betrayal that drains the motivating joy and capacity to share life. Fear of consequence can drive the 'trying' into a deeply sacrificial attempt to regain a sense of life by whatever pattern of self-validation drives the sense of needing it.
    The naivete of the social mask is the belief that people are basically trying to work to a common goal and keep making (the same) mistakes - but they are not mistakes - but are by design - and that design is implicit to the power struggle of the survival mentality - regardless how it masks in moral apology or justifies itself from grievance. However, when I use the term Humanity with an H - I don't mean human insanity. An I don't see insanity as organic disease requiring state control through pharma - but relational conflicts that manifest communication breakdown; a call for healing.
    Earth has been likened to a prison planet and I link that to an asylum planet.
We're all Mad here!
    But are we in fact 'here' in the sense our identity defines us as, or are we here in terms of a current focusing of idea and intention, of purpose and desire?

   Bruce replies:

    Hi, You mention a lot of good stuff that I want to chew on, but right off I like your observation that "the narrative" has different levels of not only communication but actually boundaries of thought. Dissociation and cognitive dissonance, as you say.
    That's a more sophisticated way of saying "stupid" which I know is not the best term because it's so "subjective", which means it could range from meaning literally limited cognitive function/ability to cognitive dissonance which is almost the opposite in terms of potential.
    ...More later, but I want to make sure I understand your reference to "America". I think you're saying that its founding principles are sound and consonant but the way the government/"Deep State" has evolved it is anything but. If so, I agree, and ironically that "intelligent dissonance" can effectively be as incompetent and indistinguishable as sheer "stupidity."
    BTW, how did "Brexit" work out for you? Not to probe but I'd be interested to read your POV about what went down.
    Thanks for commenting.

Hi Bruce - opening inner reflection is where I invite - and not to argue over 'what is right' - so gratitude for your synchronicity in a shared appreciation.

Not knowing or openly owning and expressing what you know because terror defines the believed consequence is not stupid within its own framework - but playing 'stupid' can be a strategy of survival - and of setting off chaotic or destructive outcome by design - as part of hidden agenda. But playing anything that seems to work and playing it for real is the survival mode of psychological 'defences' that operate beneath the radar of what might be called our consensual reality - which as noted - has different levels and compartments according to the defining and triggering conditionality. Indeed it is the shadow power or denials that actually operate - while the narrative paints a censoring illusion of control via the same tricks that operate somewhat subconsciously.

So the above construct in consciousness - taken without  the living perspective that embraces and transcends the psychological conditioning - is only a getting mechanism operating blindly as a sense of struggle upon a sense of Life that thus seems polarized in mutually exclusive opposites.

Of course the blindness here is cognitive - as a filtered and distorted version of the 'movement of being' by which existence has awareness-experience of being. There is a range of perspective available - perhaps an infinite range - but ... one step at a time - at least while time serves the recognition and balancing of the expansive/contractive polarities of perspective. I may be getting too abstarct here for most - but suffice to say that a 'dalek's eye view' is fearfully defended, mechanically limited, yet destructively directed - and any of us can experience this when we feel threatened and cornered. However, the fear imprint is much more deeply embedded than the conditions that trigger defence and should not be underestimated in its capacity to subvert and sabotage even the best laid plans...

Perhaps my presumption of the USA as a representative model on the Big Screen of a fragmented and dissociated conglomeration of parts - asserting narrative controls at different levels in various compartmented agenda - was misplaced. I'm not accusing - but feel that extreme examples serve to illuminate what lies hidden in our own less obvious presentation.

'America' is used as a subliminal religion by a narrative identity of exceptionalism - that can be expressed - and does express in many ways. Was it stupidity or wisdom to NOT stand up as a US citizen after 9/11 and challenge the asserted terror and war narrative - not just of what exactly happened - but what the happening was timed and used to implement upon both its own citizenry and the world? Or was it shock of a more complex order than the outer scenario seemed to justify or represent? For there is a terror of mind-breaking and therefore mind-controlling extent - that diverts and displaces into destroying 'enemy' almost regardless who serves as scapegoat. A coup-d'etat of the mind. But also a revealing of the way it works.

Brexit is an ongoing 'project'. The pre referendum campaign operated a narrative that hardly allowed any coverage or witness to what the EU is and does, what its origins are, how power operates through it, who effectively set it up and has undue influence over it - and the globalist agenda it is subverted to. Nor in the so called debate was there any real expansion on what sovereignty or freedom of self determination means - or can be redeemed to reveal as Meaning.

I voted for a pause from conditioned reaction in which to open a process of communication in place of a complex technocratic scam by which to further sacrifice a truly Human willingness to a loveless mechanism in the guise of power and protection.

Others voted for whatever reasons or from whatever intuitive sense they then rationalized. The inescapable sense of the whole thing being managed tends to ascribe evil agenda to the hidden hand. But I also see just how people's fear demands a managed outcome - and although opportunism preys on such blind 'trust' - I also remain open to the guidance to use the event and the experience for the purpose, I, freely accept and recognize myself in - which is not defined over and against an evil - so much as uncovering or redeeming a sense of Life lived and shared - which is an intimacy or presence - not mere concept in rehearsal presented for mutual reinforcement.

Change is generally anticipated, managed and controlled - and inner circle insider knowledge can be one step ahead of any outer rings - so that differing narratives arise as to what is in fact going on and who knows or did what as part of reaction, response or strategic presentation - for there are a number of threads running through this - any of which can be an overriding priority of focus to those involved - and thus a filter of exclusion and distortion relative to other threads and perspectives.

Insofar as I am aware of the founding of the USA I see the attempt to define and codify something of the true - that becomes the trojan form in which error and the machinations of a mind un-recognized, operate against the true while keeping and using the form. Power interests do whatever is in their power, to survive and prevail - in the terms their identity sets. Relational interests communicate whatever is true of them - to honour and retain the recognition and meaning that reveals and renews an identification within Life. A confusion of both has power predating upon relationship as a means of getting power - as if meaningful in and of itself, and a sense of broken-hearted, denied and oppressed isolation amidst struggle to survive.

No matter what the power-relationship embodies - it has honest feedback to a willingness for communication - which is as I said above - infinite in range - but one step at a time in acceptance and understanding - which is not so much a personal possession or accomplishment, as a point of balance and alignment within a 'movement of being.

Regardless of impossibility in the face of all prior human experience, I feel for awakened self-responsibility as a true 'founding' - and that is the willingness to find the balance point by living the discernment of it within relationship - rather than fixing it in externalized rules that then become coercive upon rather than guiding within. Not anti-rules nor anti-authority - so much as uncovering true authorship. Do I need to hide my true desire in forms of a defended coercive persuasion or appeal?